Patriot Guard
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grnvixenAnyone interested in seeing the Patriot Guard in action, they will be in the area tomorrow. From a friend on another list (one of the ride captains is SCA):
"I wanted to let you know that there will be a Patriot Guard tomorrow morning
for the funeral of Army officer CW3 Michael Hartwick.
The funeral will be at the Pleasant Valley Baptist Church in Liberty MO. The
address is 1600 N Hwy 291. The service is scheduled for 9:00 A.M.
The Freds plan to be there to protest the military and the new law. The
Patriot Guard welcomes anyone who would like to stand with them in support of
Michael Hartwick's family."
Other observations cut for length
And I stumbled across FP the other day when channel surfing, he was being interviewed on Scarborough Country. (transcript of entire show here, will need to scroll down a bit for the Rev P part).
I had never seen FP before and it was a little daunting to find him staring straight into the camera spewing fourth his rhetoric. At first I was appaled that someone was actually giving him national air time (had never really caught this show before) but the producers must have known what they were doing as FP proceeded to pretty much hang himself; he would not engage in any civilized exchange of views and indeed just kept spewing forth until they had to turn off his mic. The host then turned to interview a Michigan State representative who is sponsoring legislation to limit protests at funerals and the widow of a serviceman killed in Iraq whose funeral was picketed by FP.
The host did make some good points that this does involve free speech and where/how do we draw the line but I think FP provided his own definition of what HE is actually doing in this quote: "And the trouble with the nation right now is there‘s a national movement to blot out the First Amendment—a national movement to criminalize gospel preaching..."
Gospel preaching now equals freedom of speech??? Apparently it does to FP. Anyone know if this particular definition has been defended as freedom of speech? Some of the definitions I found for 'preach':
To proclaim or put forth in a sermon
To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with
To deliver (a sermon).
To give religious or moral instruction, especially in a tedious manner.
Much as I disagree w/ FP, he IS entitled to his first amendment rights as much as anyone else but he seems to have a different term for what 'freedom of speech' is ie; "gospel preaching". By the definitions of preaching above, this seems to be going beyond the first amendement.
(handy reference to First Amendment here)
"I wanted to let you know that there will be a Patriot Guard tomorrow morning
for the funeral of Army officer CW3 Michael Hartwick.
The funeral will be at the Pleasant Valley Baptist Church in Liberty MO. The
address is 1600 N Hwy 291. The service is scheduled for 9:00 A.M.
The Freds plan to be there to protest the military and the new law. The
Patriot Guard welcomes anyone who would like to stand with them in support of
Michael Hartwick's family."
Other observations cut for length
And I stumbled across FP the other day when channel surfing, he was being interviewed on Scarborough Country. (transcript of entire show here, will need to scroll down a bit for the Rev P part).
I had never seen FP before and it was a little daunting to find him staring straight into the camera spewing fourth his rhetoric. At first I was appaled that someone was actually giving him national air time (had never really caught this show before) but the producers must have known what they were doing as FP proceeded to pretty much hang himself; he would not engage in any civilized exchange of views and indeed just kept spewing forth until they had to turn off his mic. The host then turned to interview a Michigan State representative who is sponsoring legislation to limit protests at funerals and the widow of a serviceman killed in Iraq whose funeral was picketed by FP.
The host did make some good points that this does involve free speech and where/how do we draw the line but I think FP provided his own definition of what HE is actually doing in this quote: "And the trouble with the nation right now is there‘s a national movement to blot out the First Amendment—a national movement to criminalize gospel preaching..."
Gospel preaching now equals freedom of speech??? Apparently it does to FP. Anyone know if this particular definition has been defended as freedom of speech? Some of the definitions I found for 'preach':
To proclaim or put forth in a sermon
To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with
To deliver (a sermon).
To give religious or moral instruction, especially in a tedious manner.
Much as I disagree w/ FP, he IS entitled to his first amendment rights as much as anyone else but he seems to have a different term for what 'freedom of speech' is ie; "gospel preaching". By the definitions of preaching above, this seems to be going beyond the first amendement.
(handy reference to First Amendment here)
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Date: 2006-04-13 07:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-13 08:25 pm (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps
and the book that was almost released after the Topeka Captiol Journal (altho take their explaination about how this came about with a grain of salt):
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michael_haggerty/expose3.htm
The family still seems to have a lot of influence in Topeka and I wouldn't be surprised to find they have silent supporters.